GNLP2173

Hellesdon Parish doesn't have any open community land east of the Cromer road. This land should be kept open for various uses for the residents of Hellesdon. If families and young people want to access community parkland they currently have to cross the busy Cromer Road, they deserve their own land with access to play equipment. The motivation for this proposal is financial profit, the motivation for keeping it for community land is to help the quality of life for local residents. The housebuilding density suggested would leave it feeling very crowded and out of place with local development.

I am a resident of Hellesdon, a parish that has a large population with very little recreational or green space.

I object to the development of further housing in this location that would remove a possible recreational space and add to the 1,000 homes already scheduled to be developed at the Golf Course in the parish and up to a further 500 to 1,000 homes projected to be part of additional developments within its current boundaries or adjacent to them without any additional services or recreational space.

I am a resident that backs onto the proposed site. Hellesdon is a very popular area, but a large green space is sadly lacking. The old Jarrolds site would make an ideal closed, safe area for families to enjoy. Parking within the green space would have to be increased & a suitable safe play area constructed. These can easily done to safeguard this precious area within our community.

I am a resident of Hellesdon, I object to more housing on the Jarrolds site, I would like it kept as a green area for all residents of Hellesdon to enjoy, ie, children, dog walkers, we already sports pitches on the site, including tennis courts, bowls green and several football pitches, and changing rooms, it seems a shame to loose what we already have and I'm sure give the opertunity it would be well utilised by the residents of Hellesdon and surrounding areas, there is nothing else like this in our area, please keep it green.

As a Hellesdon resident living in close proximity of Heath Crescent I strongly object to the proposed housing development on this site. There is very little, if any, recreational space this side of Cromer Road and I would prefer the site to remain as it was previously, i.e. sports ground for football, green bowls & tennis for the community, with maybe a children's playground and an area to exercise dogs.

The area already struggles with the amount of traffic on Fifers Lane most of the day as this road provides access to a large industrial estate as well as the residential properties already here. Further development will only exacerbate an already desperate situation.

The Hellesdon area is short of green spaces and this proposed area for development could be better used as a green space for the current residents of Hellesdon. Also the increased traffic will put even more pressure on the junction of Cromer road and Fifers lane. I currently live in Prince Andrews road and during busy time find it very difficult to exit onto Cromer road this proposed development would make it worse. If this area was allowed to become a green space the large number of residents within walking distance would benefit from it tremendously. The next large green space is in Catton which is too far for most people to walk to. I think it would be very short sighted to loose this space as once it is gone there will not be another opportunity to have a large green space within the Hellesdon area. There are several other proposed development sites on the outskirts of Hellesdon (Holt Road)towards the NDR that would be far better suited. Hellesdon has just recently lost a large green area to development on the Royal Norwich golf site. We should not loose another one.

At the moment there is little or no open green spaces for leisure activities and play areas for children. To build on this piece of land, when as suggested it could be adopted for use by the greater community, would be a travesty!
Not only this, but to add to what is a totally unacceptable amount of traffic currently using this area would be a further nail in the coffin to the health and well being of residents who are already suffering from vehicle pollution.

I would like to see the former Jarrolds Sports and Social site retained for the community and future generations. As a society our focus is to build more and more properties in smaller and smaller plots but pay no toughen to providing green space for communities to enjoy. This is a fantastic opportunity to retain such a space and one which already has great facilities. There is currently a distinct lack of community facilities in this area.

The reason that I object to residential houses in this area is that there are too many houses already. Doctors are at the maximum capacity. We already have issues in getting out the road, more cars, possibly 100 more would cause other motorists issues in this area. We have no green space at all. If this piece of land could be used for a community area there would be somewhere safe for children to play, residents could use it for exercise/health reasons, dogs have an area to run and more importantly it will bring a community together,

I think this area of open land should be used for the benefit of the local community by using it as a playing field for local children and adults. It would give people access to a green area for leisure activities and recreation. I am a dog owner who has to walk around the streets to exercise my dog as I do not have a car. A space like this would be a lovely place to walk and meet others from the community. I am sure others must think the same as me.

This is probably the last green open space in Hellesdon and should be re-designated as an open space for use by parishioners.

With regard to GNLP2173, I believe that the access / egress road are not suitable to carry the proposed increase in traffic. The only roads available are the short Heath Close section where turning right onto Cromer road is very difficult at most times during the day and Prince Andrews Road / Brabazon Road. Using the last two roads would create a rat run of cars trying to avoid vehicles which constantly queue back down Cromer road from the Boundary junction.This has been more noticeable following the recent housing development on Eversley Road.

Another consideration is that Prince Andrews Road is quite narrow and contains several tight corners which are not conducive to good traffic flow as there are many vehicles parked at the side of the road both residents and visitors / tradesmen.

This area has a majority of elderly residents where an increase in traffic with its inherent increase in noxious emissions could present its own dangers to residents.

Hellesdon has already grown in recent times by approximately 20% with a loss of much of its green spaces and has contributed its fair share to mitigate the perceived shortage in housing.
I also believe that the infrastructure has not kept up with the population increase.

It is due to the forgoing reasons that I object to the proposal and would like the open space to be preserved.

This area is nearing saturation point in terms of available infrastructure. The roads locally are busy all day. The planned entrance/exit from this proposed development would pour more traffic into Heath Cresent.The barrier on Heath Cresent was erected to kerb traffic flow!The preservation of green spaces is essential in communities. Hellesdon has no green space east of the A140. I would like to see the green space used as a communal area. I regularly use the field for running, with the emergence of 'park runs' Hellesdon could make great use of such a green space for all ages.

Hellesdon is already increasing by a very large ammount including the large 1000 dwelling development of the golf club. I fully endorse the parish council view that recreational space needs to be preserved in the village. More housing requires more recreational space, not less recreational space.

with existing planning permissions granted in hellesdon, including 1000 houses on the old golf course. There are insufficient health and schooling services for the current population. This development would only worsen those pressures on existing services. I support the parish council in keeping this land for recreational use.

It is recognised that (a) Hellesdon generally has a very high density of housing within its existing boundaries and (b) The whole area lacks adequate green space and recreational amenities. The section of Hellesdon, east of the Cromer Road, suffers particularly; so why is it that residents there are about to be subjected to further erosion of their liveable space by the GNLP2173.

The once good Jarrold's name is soiled by this proposal to erect up to 50 residents. In effect, this will mean up to a future 100 extra cars having to negotiate Heath Crescent and, if demolition of No3 Prince Andrew's Road takes place, this will include Prince Andrew's Road and Brabazon Road as potential 'rat' runs for the new incomers and an inconvenience to existing residents.

The proposal to demolish No3 P.A. Road is particularly dispicable; it will isolate No1 PAR and also create a dangerous 'double' junction on Heath Crescent for both the new development and the long-standing residents of Prince Andrews Road, all whom wishing to exit on to the Cromer Road.

I am also not convinced that all of the existing road services will take a development of this size; the area, particularly Prince Andrew's Road still has 'soak aways' for surface water - despite the residents being promised main drains some two years ago but not honoured - contractors have left the area of Hellesdon!!

It seems clear that Jarrolds is intent in 'smoothing' its way towards getting its proposal accepted whilst maximising the value of its site for development at the expense of the community. It has 'quietly' purchased No3 PAR and
apparently slipped in its proposal 'just' before the deadline - if that is all true then it speaks volumes!!


Whilst the Jarrold's site would be a very bad choice for any form of housing development, it would offer a wonderful opportunity for the authorities to both retain at least a small existing piece of green space and to offer it back to the whole of the Hellesdon community as a fully functional recreational facility - maybe administered by the Parish Council?

I OBJECT!!

I object to the plans. Demolishing a house to build a new road for access to 50 more houses on what is already a tight road is not a great idea. This will cause a lot of congestion, pollution and massively increase the odds of a traffic accident. Plus extra houses means further stretching the local doctors and schools. Build a park!

This Should Be Kept As Green Space For Recreational Purposes (Nothing Of This Quality Exists For The Residence East Of The Cromer Road)
The Infrastructure Would Not Cope With The Extra Traffic/Water/Sewage Demands.
Prince Andrews Road Would Not Be Suitable For The Extra Traffic Using It As A Through Road To Avoid The Heath Road/A140 Junction

We need to Keep Green Space of this quality for the recreation and wellbeing of the Children
Hellesdon doesn't have enough of this now so here is the opportunity to increase what is available.

This development will mean that Hellesdon will lose even more open space. As a parish Hellesdon is sadly lacking in open green space to the extent that the parish council have to class muddy verges along the sides of some streets as green space when putting forward their future plans. The parish council is keen to keep this land as recreational space, where children can play ball games, learn to ride their bikes and exercise in safety. Having this space is so important when we are trying to promote a healthier lifestyle. Once you have built on green space you can never get it back.

The people who live near this area deserve to have their own piece of community land they can visit for their leisure needs. How safe is it for children to have to keep crossing the Cromer Road to use the play equipment further away in the Parish? There isn't enough green space in Hellesdon, this is one of the last bits left and it should be saved for the people of Hellesdon

I wish to object very strongly to this proposal on the grounds of the additional traffic it will create in Prince Andrews Road and Heath Crescent with the proposed access road, getting out of this area onto Cromer Road even now can be a huge problem, having to wait 10 minutes or more is not uncommon so I can't begin to imagine the extra problems that this will cause if the site proposal is accepted with the access arrangements as currently planned.

Site Reference GNLP1021 and GNLP 2173
As a local resident I am dismayed at the proposed development of the Jarrold's site for 50 dwellings. Their purchase of No 3 Prince Andrews Road will mean that all traffic from the site will either go in or out onto Prince Andrews Road or Heath Crescent (Fifers Road end). This will cause congestion as cars attempt to join Cromer Road either at Heath Crescent junction or Brabazon Road junction. There is already a problem on both theses roads with cars parked near to the junction with Cromer Road. Some of these appear to be commuters leaving their cars while they go off to work (Heath Crescent ) or cars belonging to residents living on Cromer Road or Brazen Road parked on the road near to the junction with Cromer Road instead of their own driveways. There will also be congestion at the junction of Heath Crescent and Fifers Lane. I believe the problem on the end of Heath Crescent of commuter parking has been resolved but it will still be difficult to join Fifers Lane. All this extra traffic is not good for the environment.

If this site is to be developed then I am of the opinion that it should be bungalows, which would fit in better with existing homes and at the same density of the local existing homes and not crammed in . It is better for people to live with space and gardens - it makes for more of a community spirit and healthy, happy residents. Talking of which we are in dire need of another doctors surgery to serve all the new residents that will eventually live in Hellesdon.

My last point is open spaces for recreation. I don't suppose that this a very high priority for developers but it should be for the Greater Norwich Local Plan and I would like to see this strongly implemented.

Firstly the building of 50 houses on the old Jarrold site would mean somewhere in the region of 70-90 extra vehicles on an already overused road. Those travelling to the city will use Prince Andrews Road to get on to Cromer Road. There is already lots of cars parked on the pavements on Brabazon Road including 4 or 5 cars that are continually parked close to the Cromer Road. The extra traffic wanting to either turn right of left from Brabazon will mean queues every morning.
Where will the extra people needing Doctors appointments go? It already takes at least 2weeks to get an appointment at the Reepham Road surgery. The local schools are almost full with children having to cross the busy Cromer Road to get to school. Those coming out of the new estate trying to access St Faiths Road will make the queues longer. We already in Hellesdon have 600 odd new houses on the golf club site, this to me is the straw that broke the camels back. Please turn this down.

I would just like to add that i do not think this would be a good idea. The Jarrold field could be used for a community hub this side of Hellesdon, such as a play areas for children, pay and play tennis courts, that sort of thing, not more congestion.
The unit on the site, could be ran by Brittania Cafe at weekends...look at Eaton Park as an example.
Keep it green!

My wife and I object to the proposal of building of houses on the Jarrold Sports Field Heath Cescent Hellesdon for the following reasons:


1.We have no green areas or playing fields for children this side of the Cromer Road.

2. To demolish a house to put a road in to accommodate more traffic, will reverse the reason the road was closed half way down in the first place. We already have problems with people parking to go to the airport and also employees of the businesses, around this area of Hellesdon, they park their cars here during the day, which has an impact on residents getting in and out of the road.

3.Also I would like to point out that the NDR has actually made Cromer Road more busy with the influx of traffic, that is using the road now. As residents of Heath Crescent, we still have problems getting onto Cromer Road due to the influx of traffic that uses the Cromer Road. Therefore, if these houses are built here, this will just increase the problem further, which Hellesdon, sorely needs right now, as we do not have the road infrastructure. I want to ask why, they have to access the site from Heath Crescent, when it could be accessed more easily from Lansdowne Road, Fifers Lane.

4.I would also like to know where the services i.e. extra Doctors, schools, etc, are coming from, as Doctors and Schools in Hellesdon, as far as I know, are at full capacity.

I think therefore, that this proposal has been thought through and yet again businesses want to make more money out of a piece of land, without consideration for the people who live round the area, to the detriment of the peoples social life and the property prices. I therefore propose that this is kept for a green playing field area for use of the community, especially children, as they have nothing this side of Cromer Road. This has been a playing field for decades and I can see no reason to put houses on here.

We have lived at Heath Crescent for 13 years and although a quiet area, sometimes lorries will think they can take a short cut through to fifers lane which causes enough noise and difficulty when they need to do a u turn. I understand the road and traffic were horrendous before they put up the bollards to stop traffic "cutting through".
If 30-50 houses were built each having at least one car,it would be an absolute nightmare trying to get out of the crescent onto Cromer road. It already takes quite an age for one car.
The roads just aren't wide enough for so much more traffic and you must think of the safety aspect and pollution. KEEP IT GREEN LAND PLEASE

I live on Prince Andrews Rd and have done for five plus years and I strongly object to the proposal...for a number of reasons and in no particular order;

Prince Andrew's Rd can already be utilised as a bit of a rat run and the speeds that some drive along it is high and a danger to all residents.

Presumably this will affect my house value in a negative way.

Not enough green space nearby, especially with some leisure facilities.

Golf course is housing 1000 new homes so what is the point in creating 50 on a small space.

Can schools and NHS cope locally, I would have strong doubts.

Fifty houses on that plot with presumably narrow roads will not cope with the amount of cars.

Elderly populated is Prince Andrew's Rd, a development will make them particularly vulnerable to crime, especially whilst being built and lots of tools/equipment lay about.

My list is not exhaustive and my fellow residents have expressed their concerns and from what I have read so far I cannot disagree with any of them.

RENOVATE THE GREEN SPACE INTO A PUBLIC LEISURE / PLAY PARK AREA FOR ALL TO ENJOY

The parish of Hellesdon has limited green spaces for recreational purposes and this area would be better retained and used by residents to its full capacity inc expanding the existing facilities.
For the site be used for building the amount of homes planned the traffic impact on the small residential roads in the area will be severe. The number of properties planned is very high density for a small parcel of land. Safety of existing occupiers, many elderly, more cars using the existing roads within the neighbourhood is of great concern plus the new properties overlooking existing ones, mainly bungalows.